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The Pain of Debt

Not long ago a friend of mine came to me with a problem. He had just recently broken up with his girlfriend and was having financial difficulties. He was not looking for money, well not exactly. He and his ex-girlfriend had taken out a 100% mortgage to buy their house. Since they were no longer together it had been agreed that he would take over the house and the repayments that went with it. The problem was the mortgage was in both their names and based on both their incomes.

My friend went to get the mortgage changed into his name but he ran into a brick wall. The bank was not prepared to change the mortgage into his name because it was not prepared to take the risk on my friend. You see my friend also has a significant amount of personal debt, credit card debt, overdraft and some outstanding student loans.

So if it wasn’t bad enough that my friend’s relationship broken up it also looked like he would lose his house. Now what did he want from me? Did he come looking for advice on how to repay his debts and stabilise his financial situation? Was he looking for motivation in his struggle with his debts? No, nothing of the sort. My friend was running short on options. He was looking for someone to go guarantor on the mortgage. This would mean that the person who signed as a guarantor on the mortgage would be liable for the mortgage repayments in the event that my friend could not make the mortgage repayments.

To be honest I struggled for a long time with this situation. What was I to do? I was caught between wanting to help a friend in need and not wanting to put myself in a position that could damage my future. Imagine the scenario – I go guarantor on the mortgage for my friend, now my friend manages to make the mortgage payments for six months. Okay, so far so good – it seems to be working out ok and my position as a good friend is assured. Now imagine that my friend gets laid off or his debts continue to grow and are too much for him to handle? What then? The problem then is that if my friend can’t make the mortgage repayments then it falls to me to make them for him. I have debt burden myself so I sincerely doubt that I could take on someone else’s mortgage repayments on top of the loan repayments I have to make each month myself.

As you can see it was a tough position to be in. I was angry at my friend for putting me in this position and trying to leverage our friendship so that I could solve his problems. I wasn’t happy about it at all. I wasn’t happy about the way it was making me feel and the way it had infected our friendship. You see that’s the thing about debt in all its ugly forms. If you are in debt and are struggling to cope with your debts then every single aspect of your life is view through the glasses of debt. Every decision you make is clouded by debt. You are no longer prepared to take risks like finding and starting a new and better job.

It was situations like this that made me mad enough to start this website. I get really angry when I see people beaten down by debt. They sleep walk right into a mountain of debt and wake up one day wishing it was all a bad dream. Some get depressed and end up on anti-depressants. Couples with debt problems begin to argue over money. The debt has made them afraid of losing what material things they have. Little realising that if they continue they way they are they will end up in a vicious cycle of spending to maintain a certain lifestyle and using debt to fund it. I’ve heard stories of couples staying together (even though they hated each other) simply because they could not afford to take the negative equity hit on their house. You see debt like this is oppressive – its slavery.

Getting back to the situation I had with my friend. He was getting desperate as the bank was looking for a guarantor and his ex-girlfriend wanted her name off the mortgage fast. So I took the middle ground – I really wanted to help this guy, after all he’s a friend and what use would I be as a friend if I couldn’t help him in his hour of need. On the other hand I didn’t want to be pulled down by his mistake – if things got a little worse for him then I would be dragged into his black hole of debt. Not a place I wanted to go. So here is what I proposed to him and how I proposed it to him.

“I will go as guarantor on your mortgage for the period of six months if you satisfy the following criteria.

1. Get a reality check – I want you calculate exactly how much you owe and to whom you owe it. Then I want you to calculate exactly how much you are repaying in loans each month.

2. Calculate the absolute minimum that you can realistically live on each month – so cover the basics only, mortgage, food, transport and health insurance.

3. Take a look around your house and life and sell everything that you do not need – everything. Use this extra cash to pay down your credit card debt.

4. Once the first three steps are completed I want you to set aside an additional 5% of your net income each month and add this amount to the monthly repayments you make on your smallest loan. Once you have paid down this loan take the amount you were repaying on the loan along with the additional 5% and add it to the next smallest loan. Continue in this fashion.

5. Cut up all your credit cards and operate only with debit cards or cash.

6. Create a daily/weekly/monthly budget.”

I said to my friend that I would go guarantor for six months to give him breathing space but I wanted him to change his spending habits. After the six months were up I would extend it for another year if he met the criteria I outlined above.

To the casual observer the terms outlined above may seem a bit extreme – some may argue that I should have simply gone ahead and signed for the mortgage and to hell with the consequences. He’s a friend goddamn it! My argument is this – it was this kind of attitude that got us into debt in the first place and I’ll be damned if I’m going back there. I’ve had too many sleepless nights for me to go back to drowning in debt.

So this is how it turned out. My friend said I was being unreasonable. I explained in detail the reasons why I wanted him to meet the criteria. It was for his own good and I had his best interests at heart. He didn’t take too kindly to my offer of help on condition. He got very offended. He said I was treating him like a child and in certain respects he was right. I was trying to control his spending behaviour but only because I could see exactly where he was going to run into financial trouble.

I tried to remain calm and kept repeating my reasons but as I said before when people are in a lot of financial trouble and the bank is calling it is hard for them to be logical. It did become a bit ridiculous and my friend became very upset. He couldn’t see why I was being so stubborn. I pointed out that I felt it was unfair for him to use emotional blackmail on me just so I could click my fingers and his problems would be solved. Well at least solved until the next debt threat!

The conversation went on in this manner for a while before my friend just got up and left in anger. We didn’t speak for weeks. I sent him an email to see how he was getting on and he called me. We spoke for a while and he apologised for storming off. I asked about the mortgage and he told me that his brother in law had gone guarantor.

We pretty much left it at that. We have met up and spoken since but our friendship is damaged probably beyond repair.

Part of me wonders whether the right thing to do was nothing – to make up some wishy washy excuse as to why I couldn’t go guarantor and leave him to his own devices. I don’t know what would have happened but to be honest I think the best thing that could have happened to him was to lose his house – or come close enough to losing it that he changed his ways. Now before you start typing that email of bile to me let me explain. I wanted my friend to realise how dangerous debt can be if used without thinking. I could see from his “I want it all and I want it now” lifestyle that he was using getting in deeper and deeper in debt. I wanted to help him realise this but he did not want to listen and certainly not to me. Who was I to tell him he had a problem? If the sheriff had come calling to take his stuff away would that have been enough?

Probably not.

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  4. hypertension

    That was a long story but good though. When it comes to money matters, relationships are strained to the limits. That is why as much as possible I don’t wish to involve my family or friends about debts or anything like it.

  5. boracay

    That is the thing with it. Your friend asks for some help on his finances and when you tried to help by giving some conditions they get offended. You have the right to get angry. :)

  6. Heather Allen

    I think what you did was entirely responsible and the best kind of friendship you could possibly offer. Sometimes, the best love we can offer others is to be the one brave enough to point out where they are going wrong.
    We also need to take care of ourselves and make sure our own situation is stable. Hearty congratulations on a difficult choice. You friend wasn’t ready to grow up.

  7. Anon

    He doesn’t sound like a true friend, you explained to him why you had these conditions, and you acted mature about the whole thing. it looks like he got mad in desperation, money can be a cruel and powerful thing

  8. Trent

    You being a good friend to him, You did that. The criteria you have imposed is reasonable and should be appreciated. Some people, you give them a hand, they want your entire arm…

  9. Stupid

    I had a similar situation with the man in my life. After a bad divorce I had decided that this guy was all I ever wanted. He is honest and was never going to cheat on me. Little did I know he had some severe financial issues. I took those issues head on and decided I was the woman that believed in him. How stupid could I be?? I took out a loan against the equity in my home to help him out. He fixed up his home with part of the money and was to sell it for a profit that would payoff the debt and we would then have a fresh start. Again I ask “How stupid was I?” Now I am in debt. All because I wanted to help. His kids don’t like me because I am always unhappy. It was all for nothing. I say you did the right thing. I wish I had done the same. I never gave terms. I just gave. Way to go for watching out for number 1. You can be caring without having to throw your life away.

  10. JT

    I think you did the right thing. In truth, I actually think that you should never have made the offer at all. If for whatever reason, your friend had defaulted on his mortgage loan; even after having met your conditions, it sounds as though the situation would have placed you in a financial bind. Therefore, you simply should have explained that you were not in a position to assume such risk as the potential consequences could be financially catastophic to your own living situation. Afterall, you didn’t advise him to assume the mortgage to start with.

    You’re absolutely right about debt clouding people’s perspective and judgement. People in severe debt are similar to drowning victims…they reach and grab for anything when trying to stay afloat…no matter that they may drag under that which they are hoping will save them. Years from now; I suspect that your friend may view matters differently and realize just how irresponsible he was for making such a request of you. The friendship may never be the same…or, maybe it was never even a real friendship and it just took this situation to demonstrate the point. You’ve done nothing wrong from a friendship point of view, quite the contrary, actually.

  11. Mike Leonard

    Hi JT,

    True I would have been in a bind if he had defaulted on his mortage but I suppose I was trying to balance being a friend with trying to protect my interests. In truth I didn’t want my friend to think that I was not prepared to go out on a limb for him.

    Sure my offer had strings attached but I was still taking a big risk even with those strings attached. That said I now realize that when some people get deep into debt they expect someone else to pick up the pieces. Unfortunately this was one of those times.

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  13. Pat Brown

    I, too, feel that you should have turned him down, cold. I would never co-sign for anyone…the one time we tried to help our adult son, we wound up $4500 MORE in debt. In addition, this should serve as a cautionary tale about “playing house” and intermingling finances with someone you are not committed to or don’t trust enough to MARRY.

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